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As a reminder, uh, this meeting can be viewed on local cable Channel 13 or oh three or on the internet by accessing the town website@bucksportmaine.gov. Clicking on watch meetings and selecting town council questions or comments may be submitted prior to or during the meeting by emailing ard@bucksportmaine.gov, or during the meeting by calling 3 0 7 8 0 3 0. Uh, next item on the agenda tonight is the swearing in of counselors, Paul Binette, Paul RABs, and Jennifer Tien. So I'll have you all join me down front.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay. So I'll have you all\n\nSpeaker 1: Raise your right hand. I state your name,\n\nSpeaker 3: Paul Res Al\n\nSpeaker 2: Jennifer.\n\nSpeaker 1: Do solemnly swear, do\n\nSpeaker 3: Solemnly swear.\n\nSpeaker 1: Swear that I'll support the constitution, that I'll\n\nSpeaker 3: Support the Constitu constitution\n\nSpeaker 1: And will obey the laws,\n\nSpeaker 3: Obey the laws\n\nSpeaker 1: Of the United States, of the\n\nSpeaker 3: United States,\n\nSpeaker 1: And of the state of Maine. And\n\nSpeaker 3: Does the state of Maine that\n\nSpeaker 1: I will in all respects, that\n\nSpeaker 3: I will in all respects,\n\nSpeaker 1: Observe the provisions,\n\nSpeaker 2: Observe\n\nSpeaker 3: The provisions\n\nSpeaker 1: Of the charter, and ordinances of\n\nSpeaker 3: Charter and ordinances\n\nSpeaker 1: Of the town of Bucksport, of\n\nSpeaker 3: The town of\n\nSpeaker 1: Bucksport, and will faithfully discharge, I will\n\nSpeaker 3: Faithfully discharge\n\nSpeaker 1: The duties of the Office of Town counselor.\n\nSpeaker 3: The duties of the Office of town Counselor,\n\nSpeaker 1: Congratulations. Thank you.\n\nSpeaker 2: I can bring it.\n\nSpeaker 1: I'll bring it to you. How about","timeStart":0,"timeEnd":106.365,"chunkIndex":0},{"id":"92bcac25-5f63-4ce0-97af-fe1793d5d418","content":"Speaker 2: That? Just I'll get it from you. Well, if the unison of your oath, there's any indication of a swift function this year,\n\nSpeaker 4: .\n\nSpeaker 1: The next item on the agenda is the roll call Councilor Eastman. Here. Councilor Tien. Here. Councilor Hare? Here. Councilor Binette. Here. Councilor RABs. Council Bishop Here. Councilor Rankin Here. Next item on the agenda is the annual actions of the council. First being the election of Mayor. For that being said, I'll open the floor for nominations. Nominate Paul Binet, second nomination of Paul Binet for mayor. Are there any further nominations? Hearing none Will close the floor. All in favor of Paul Binet as mayor. Unanimous,\n\nSpeaker 4: Congratulations. One, I think. Thank you. Uh, I guess it's my turn now. All turn. Uh, so that would be four B, election of Deputy Mayor, uh, chair lines annual motion or nomination? Excuse me. Nominate Mark Eastman.\n\nSpeaker 5: Second.\n\nSpeaker 4: Seconded. Any other nominations?","timeStart":106.365,"timeEnd":181.885,"chunkIndex":1},{"id":"409efd21-fd93-49a7-b521-e274b5a10462","content":"Speaker 4: Hearing none. All those in favor? Opposed? Thank you. Congratulations, Mr. Deputy Mayor. Thank you. Uh, let's see. Committee assignment, discussion. Uh, we'll keep it brief tonight. Um, I have heard from some of, oh, thank you. I have heard from some of you about, um, desired committees. Uh, so, um, we'll get a list out, um, to everyone of who is on what committees presently, what slots are open. If you have any particular interest, please let me know. I'm pretty sure we will be able to accommodate, um, in all likelihood now that I'm saying it's something will come up. But in all likelihood we'll be able to accommodate any desired committees. Um, so please let me know, um, as soon as possible. But if we could get that list out, um, at beginning of next week, um, we'll go from there and we can, um, do committee assignments at our next meeting. That works for everyone. Perfect. Alright. Thank you. Presentation of any town Council recognitions. Don't believe we have any of this evening. Uh, consider minutes of previous meetings. We have, uh, the minutes from our meeting on December the 14th. I will assume everyone's had a chance to review those. Second, second. All those in favor?\n\nSpeaker 5: Next,\n\nSpeaker 4: Uh, we have two pieces of correspondence. Uh, the first is Verona Police call on December the 23rd. Um, and we also have a letter to the editor, uh, that was written by our town manager. Do you have anything you wanted to say to that?","timeStart":183.395,"timeEnd":283.165,"chunkIndex":2},{"id":"d76c7c02-7a64-44fb-9ce1-e27105160617","content":"Speaker 5: Just that it was published in, uh, the Ellsworth American and the Bangor Daily News, and I believe the, um, first edition after their break in the enterprise as well. Um, well, we, it's a, it's a civil matter. Um, uh, after discussion with the effective officer and, and public safety, um, and our attorney, it felt that it was appropriate for the town to register. Its, uh,\n\nSpeaker 4: Support,\n\nSpeaker 5: Support of the op thank you. Of the, um, officer. It's not just the officer at this point. There's a whole bunch of other entities named on that and that, um, but at this point, that's all that, all that the town can do, um, in regards to it. But I, I am pleased that the, the publication to which it was sent, uh, published it.\n\nSpeaker 4: Agreed. Thank you. Any questions for the town manager? Very good. Uh, next discussion items, uh, we have three. The first is . I'm gonna say it a different way. We have an update on the dams.\n\nSpeaker 5: That was probably not the right way to\n\nSpeaker 4: Put it. Would've been fun, but I decided it's a new year. I'm gonna try to behave myself.","timeStart":283.235,"timeEnd":377.005,"chunkIndex":3},{"id":"6afcc9d7-c2fa-4071-a49f-78e3b00b09f0","content":"Speaker 5: I miss that. Yep. Okay. Um, at our last meeting, we had a vote from the council, um, to, um, continue exploring the idea of ownership for the Silver Lake Dam. The other four communities, um, Orland Sury, blue Hill and Kn Scott all held similar meetings with the same outcome, which is that they also all voted to continue looking at the possibility of dam ownership. Uh, Bucksport Mill, LLC has been notified of the council's and the other town's actions for that. Um, but no meetings for further discussion along that were scheduled because of the holidays intervening and that. But I anticipate that within the next week or so, we will be hearing from them in terms of, of what the next steps for that look like. There's, there's a lot to be discussed before any meeting could take place. Um, nondisclosure agreements and how much or, or little those can be utilized.","timeStart":377.165,"timeEnd":463.325,"chunkIndex":4},{"id":"fc40ca49-53d7-4315-a678-bd37d917538a","content":"Speaker 5: Um, and how much information we would need prior to having any in person meetings so that the town and time enough to, to, um, review that information. And there are a number of bills that have been introduced in the legislature in regard to this, um, this matter, uh, one being through the governor's office and the DEP, which extends the time limits for, uh, towns to have before coming up with an answer on this. And, um, making it clearer that the DEP has the ability to ask for additional information. And then there's another bill that is being submitted that looks, um, allowing the towns of the other four towns, not bucksport of forming an organization to, uh, quasi municipal organization to take ownership of Alamosa and Patti. And that gives some, I won't call it taxing authority, but the ability to, to assess fees to property owners surrounding the lakes or, or municipalities.","timeStart":463.705,"timeEnd":551.245,"chunkIndex":5},{"id":"136d445e-f451-49d5-9423-9bcdbd013670","content":"Speaker 5: Flexport is not participating in that legislation. We have only Silver Lake. It's entirely within our borders. There would be no reason for the town to be involved in an organization that was, that had dams from the other two dams as part of it, that, that wouldn't, um, there were a couple of bills that I'm not sure that, um, uh, Mr. Campbell had is introduced. I'm not sure what those are yet. I have not seen those. Um, one of them is another form of a duplicate for the timeframe. Okay. Alright. That's helpful. So those are, those are, uh, in process. Um, councilor Bishop in his other role has been meeting with, um, other legislators from both sides of the aisle who are all supporting, um, legislation to assist the towns with this process. So, um, there's a high likelihood of success because it's bipartisan in nature that it's being done as.","timeStart":551.525,"timeEnd":617.845,"chunkIndex":6},{"id":"50397984-e84e-4d5d-8f88-462d747e0552","content":"Speaker 5: Um, so that is where we stand right now with the dams. The, the five, uh, communities had a Zoom call recently, but it was, it was basically what I just told you is what we discussed. Um, in regard to that, the, um, TDY Pond Lake Association has undertaken a significant public relations, um, effort in this. They have posters, they have pins, save our ponds. Um, they've set up, uh, uh, uh, GoFundMe, GoFundMe that, um, when donations are made to that, um, they're divided between the five towns and the percentage of thirties percent to bucksport, 30% to Orland, 20% to Sury, 10% to Blue Hill and POB Scott. Um, the site encourages people who want it to go to a specific place to send the money to that place, not to contribute that way. Um, I think the last, I knew that $1,600 had been donated on that recently. Um, and, um, and they're doing that to raise public awareness of the importance of people staying connected to this issue. Please. That's where we're, oh, I'm just curious. This\n\nSpeaker 6: Questions for Councilor Bishop. Um, when do, when would, uh, is closer Tomorrow. Tomorrow when? Tomorrow when would we see like, the language of the bill? Or is it just a","timeStart":618.185,"timeEnd":721.565,"chunkIndex":7},{"id":"4c0bd299-028f-4862-953c-2a29016e93d2","content":"Speaker 7: Draft right now when it comes out of the re advisor's office? Some have language already attached to 'em that were pretty much stated how we wanted them to be and ready to go. Um, representative Nina Milliken supported, uh, one that was fairly open-ended, so we had a little bit more time to tweak what we needed to tweak along the way. So it's gonna be one of the later ones for us to get the language outta. So there's currently five of us. There's two senators and three state representatives that are all over this. I had a very productive meeting, uh, with the Attorney General the other day over this as well. So,\n\nSpeaker 8: Off subject, does anybody have any objections if I close the door? 'cause the whole time Sue's talking, somebody's listening out there and Oh, it's driving me crazy. It's like, rich has got it.\n\nSpeaker 4: Thank you.\n\nSpeaker 8: Feedback from something. Oh, okay. Okay. I'd hear your echo in every word. Oh,\n\nSpeaker 5: I'm so sorry.\n\nSpeaker 4: Um, any other questions for on this? I don't. Alright, thank you. Uh, next is the facilities position discussion. Um, in regards to the infrastructure committee recommendation from December,","timeStart":721.565,"timeEnd":794.045,"chunkIndex":8},{"id":"8b9fda22-b161-4a1b-ad82-79b276fcd33a","content":"Speaker 5: Infrastructure had moved this, um, topic to the council for consideration. Um, and the, the topic is the addition of the facilities, um, individual, um, similar to what the school has for there, but, um, uh, also a kind of roll up your sleeves and fix it kind of guy or woman. Um, either way, , however it turns out. Um, but the, the, the majority of the councilors at the time attended most of those hearings. Obviously, councilors, Rob and Terry haven't had that opportunity. But the, the question that came from infrastructure was to support this, but when should it be an advertisement that happens fairly soon so that someone can get on board by spring? Or should it be done as part of budget with a start date of July?\n\nSpeaker 7: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 8: My, go ahead\n\nSpeaker 7: Steve. I was gonna say, I would highly recommend that we put this into the budget process. That's my personal opinion. I feel that, uh, given the budget climate, both with what we've done recently with our budget and, uh, what we're gonna have for support systems out of the state, I would recommend that this be included in our budget.\n\nSpeaker 8: I'd like to see it in the budget to see the actual impact of it,\n\nSpeaker 5: Because\n\nSpeaker 8: This, this is correct. Right. The overall would be like a hundred, 2000 bucks","timeStart":795.625,"timeEnd":898.765,"chunkIndex":9},{"id":"34d25ccf-1581-40de-aacf-e13ecf644a38","content":"Speaker 5: That, that's the impact of a 27 50 position on a budget due to benefits and Right. And we present it that way because we, we turn it into an actual rate per hour, including benefits. That's this that, I mean, that assumes that whoever we hired would be on the family plan for health insurance, but it would be, it, it, it wouldn't, we would need, I think we need to state the potential, the maximum, the maximum not, it could cost us understate. Yeah. You know, that's what it would be. It's a good idea to run the most expensive scenario as we consider every other line item bought. Health insurance is fixed anyway. That's correct. Into the cost. Yeah. Well, um,\n\nSpeaker 9: Part of the job description here too, can we add or think about adding in here when we go to do the work down here on the, the town pier and the wharf and all that multimillion dollar effort? Will he, will this person, he or she become like a clerk of the works to mark, to keep a, who's gonna do the job of the specification versus keeping change orders under control\n\nSpeaker 5: A construction operation? The engineers will have a person on site that does that, and the person that the engineers report to would be rich. Okay, great.\n\nSpeaker 4: Yeah, my opinion is I can recognize the need to want to get after this sooner rather than later. But at the same time, I, I, I would have to say that I am very supportive of viewing it under the entire scope of the budget as well.\n\nSpeaker 5: Yep. Good with that. Yep. Thank you.","timeStart":899.155,"timeEnd":1014.245,"chunkIndex":10},{"id":"307d64fe-7599-4d13-9f68-4ead82ca4f10","content":"Speaker 4: Thank you. Uh, and last under discussion items, we have an update for the Historical Society. Hello.\n\nSpeaker 5: Hi.\n\nSpeaker 10: So for those of you don't know me, I'm Betty laforge and I'm now president of the Bucksport Historical Society. Um, so I wanna start with . There was, um, discussion from the infrastructure committee that said that they would recommend to the council the possibility of putting in heat pumps to help with our humidity levels. So I, I went ahead and did estimates on that. However, in doing that, I've discovered that it's, um, something we can't do unless we upgrade the electrical. We only have a 60 amp entrance and it's old and we need a new, um, entrance box and everything. So it's about $15,000. So we are getting kind of high in the price, so it's something we need to address before we could do anything like that.\n\nSpeaker 6: 15,000 for what? Just to switch a box?\n\nSpeaker 10: No, it has to have a upgrade from a 60 amp entrance to a hundred amp entrance. Mm-hmm . And a new entrance box.\n\nSpeaker 6: Does that include, include the heat pumps as well as the box? No,\n\nSpeaker 10: The 15, no, it's just 15\n\nSpeaker 6: For the electrical one.","timeStart":1015.615,"timeEnd":1100.565,"chunkIndex":11},{"id":"1f7fc1d4-1c96-4d47-900c-12ea8cf4ee2f","content":"Speaker 10: Yes. Mm-hmm . Yeah, I mean, that may be a little bit on the high side and I can get it, you know, other estimates, but that's something we need to address first before we get into that. Um, another, um, suggestion has been to help control the humidity is, um, trenched drain, uh, in the front of the building, we have a lot of water that comes off the roof and as you know, it all goes downhill there and, and it slopes towards the building as well. So we're getting maybe more water than we need to. If we could drain some of that off, that might be a help. So that's something\n\nSpeaker 6: I wondered about. I, when I went there for the open house, the wouldn't the drain be on, not on your property though, would you\n\nSpeaker 10: Have to Well, we don't have property. Right,\n\nSpeaker 6: But, but the drain would have to be on the property that made maritime owns,\n\nSpeaker 10: I think. No, no. We're, we're talking about down. Oh, I thought you meant okay. No, no, no. Wrong building. Sorry. Yes. Wrong building. . I don't wanna talk about the other building. Sorry. Because that\n\nSpeaker 6: Also needs a drain. Just a heads up","timeStart":1100.625,"timeEnd":1170.165,"chunkIndex":12},{"id":"4d666d18-e595-48f4-8c68-95494f3c0ece","content":"Speaker 10: . Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I haven't, I am not into all the nitty gritty of that particular project, so I don't know who owns what at that facility. You know, I know we own the building and you own some of the land, but I don't know the parking lot and I don't know really all those details. Um, we're just talking about the museum right down here. Um, so that's where we're at. We're also, um, upgrading a lot of our policies and procedures, and that's, um, uh, something that we really need to, we need to tighten up, um, our structures so that we work better together. And that's what we're been working on for the last few months. And hopefully by spring we'll be getting there. We're working on finishing up our inventory and, um, another other, another other, other, um, procedures. So that's where we're at. And so we're really, we really have a ways to go before we do anything else about, you know, the facility. Okay. Do you have any questions?\n\nSpeaker 4: So did\n\nSpeaker 11: They give you\n\nSpeaker 4: A quote on the heat pumps or did you just stop right\n\nSpeaker 10: There? Well, no, I did get a quote and I did get it in writing, but, you know, I couldn't find it. , I'm, I'm gonna go by memory, but, um, I think it was around 9,000. And, um, I did check on the rebate, which would be about 1400, but I'm not sure if they would do that on both heat pumps. I'd have to go back and, and check with them about that. So, but that would be a while because we first have to raise money for the electrical. Yeah. Yep.","timeStart":1170.805,"timeEnd":1283.805,"chunkIndex":13},{"id":"fb7f7701-cf7a-400b-8c41-ee1971792e79","content":"Speaker 4: There may be some grants available for that, for\n\nSpeaker 10: The electric piece. Yeah, we're definitely hoping for that.\n\nSpeaker 4: Yep.\n\nSpeaker 10: Yeah, we, we haven't had even had a budget, so we've just hammered out a budget this last meeting and, you know, and that's progress for the historical society at this point. You know, we really need that before grants. Some of them won't ask, but some will, so mm-hmm .\n\nSpeaker 4: Questions? No. Thank you for the update. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yep. All right. We have two agenda items this evening. The first is resolved, 2025 dash 34 to accept fiscal year 2025, uh, the 2020, uh, fiscal year 2025 speed grant, Mr. Proof. Second. Second move. Second questions or anything?\n\nSpeaker 7: Uh, chief Gagan would like to speak on, if\n\nSpeaker 4: I may,\n\nSpeaker 11: I just want to update you on these grants that\n\nSpeaker 4: The\n\nSpeaker 11: Speed grant itself, we received $13,000 on that grant for designated patrols. This person will be out there designated on just speed when they're out there not answering complaints. We also got an additional $4,000 for dis distracted driving for people on their phones. Um, with that comes a free radar, um, which we're in need of and gonna ask for. And that's a total of $3,000 just for the radar. Um, we're planning on starting these next month and we're hoping to do three speed details and one distracted driving detail per week. And that is a designated just for that. So it's important for the public to know that,\n\nSpeaker 7: Uh, does this grant allow you to pick what road you do the speed detail on, or does it have to be a main,","timeStart":1285.975,"timeEnd":1401.845,"chunkIndex":14},{"id":"1cabdc67-5450-4667-9475-362fbbfa3837","content":"Speaker 4: We\n\nSpeaker 11: Can do it on any road we want, is my understanding. Yep.\n\nSpeaker 7: So you could parallel that with some of the speed complaints. Exactly.\n\nSpeaker 11: Yep.\n\nSpeaker 4: Perfect. Any other questions for Director Gagan? Thank you. You answered them. Thank you. Nope. Alright, we have a motion in a second. All those in favor? Opposed? Thank you. And we'll move right along, uh, to the second part of what Director Gian spoke to, uh, resolved. 2025 dash three five to accept the fiscal year 2025 distracted driving grant motion\n\nSpeaker 2: To approve second\n\nSpeaker 4: Questions. Those in favor opposed? Two. Uh, next we have an appointment this evening of Jacob Grant as the Registrar of voters, uh, for 2025, as well as his confirmation of appointment as town clerk and assistant town manager Chair. I have motion, motion to\n\nSpeaker 2: Approve Second\n\nSpeaker 4: Questions. All in favor? Opposed? Welcome back, Jacob. Thank\n\nSpeaker 2: You, sir.\n\nSpeaker 4: We have, uh, under quick claims discharges, deeds, we have Christine Coleman, Tyler Coleman, and Jonathan Coleman Map 0 0 9 lot 0 6 2, uh, tax lien discharge, uh, from June the 16th of 2022. How the council like to proceed.\n\nSpeaker 2: Motion\n\nSpeaker 4: To approve second questions. All those in favor? Um, additionally, we, we just pass\n\nSpeaker 5: These surroundings.\n\nSpeaker 4: Um, additionally we have, uh, for Kelly J. Albert and Alan d Babcock, uh, joint tenants map 0 4 7, lot 14 tax lien discharge from all, also from June the 16th, 2022. How'd the counsel like to proceed?\n\nSpeaker 2: Motion to approve second\n\nSpeaker 4: Motion and a second questions. All those in favor? Town manager report?","timeStart":1402.105,"timeEnd":1526.605,"chunkIndex":15},{"id":"f982c1e1-b929-4e5d-b083-bd977c48b65e","content":"Speaker 5: Okay. First, tonight is the maiden voyage of our, you notice we don't have microphones in front of us because we have a see the green light in the ceiling. That's our central mic. Um, our cameras are updated, our mic is updated. Our, our video streaming is now coordinated, and we have, uh, the person doing this in the it room next door instead of in the closet back there, which is where they used to be. And, um, we are hoping that certainly on the streaming side of this, the, the visual clarity and the ability to hear what people are saying should be much better than people have seen or heard in the back and in, in previous times. And the, those with spectrum, um, there will be an improvement, but we are limited by the bandwidth that we get where they, where Spectrum puts the channel on their lineup.","timeStart":1528.755,"timeEnd":1593.325,"chunkIndex":16},{"id":"51d9329d-4e88-470e-85d7-95e9db54cc07","content":"Speaker 5: And that's why sometimes the quality of that is not as good. So that is, that's exciting. We've been working on this for two years to get to the point where this could be an integrated system. There's still a bit more to go, um, setting up the phone to communicate with the council chambers, um, testing our remote participation system with this streaming and then an indicator, um, that will show that streaming is in progress, um, in our system. So, um, many thanks to Jim Morrow and, and Dylan Pointer who have spent a lot of time. Dylan I'm sure is more than well ready for this project to be done. It's, it's been a long time. Um, I am pleased to report that we are now at full staffing at the town office with the addition of Jacob last week and the final hire for the police department, which occurred last week as well.","timeStart":1593.585,"timeEnd":1654.285,"chunkIndex":17},{"id":"ffda9e11-7799-4a11-bcf6-6242cfa618f8","content":"Speaker 5: I wanna thank all of the staff in both departments for going the extra mile while we have been short staffed, a reminder to everyone, all dog owners, that dog licenses have to be done by January 31st, 2025. To avoid a state mandated $25 fee for licensing, additional fee for licensing, we will be applying for another grant from the state for our courtesy boat inspection program. The deadline for that filing is February 27th. The grant pays for the majority of the program. Um, a reminder to those who have not yet done so, to go to the town website@flexport.gov and click on the link that appears on the left side of the front page to sign up to receive important messages from the town via text. We'll not be overwhelming people with messages, but it does provide a way for us to contact people with emergency public safety notifications and important meetings. This was a recommendation of our safety committee that we've now implemented for, um, emergencies. And finally, the DEP has requested additional information from Buck Court Mill LLC in regard to the closure plan that was submitted on 11 1 20 24. I communicated with the project manager for this from DEP and was informed that the DEP still has 12 31 26 as the required ation.","timeStart":1654.805,"timeEnd":1742.525,"chunkIndex":18},{"id":"63246def-ee69-4a75-af92-a3236076f5db","content":"Speaker 5: And one more thing, we have, um, the State of Maine is amended the main uniform building and energy code adoption. Uh, on Tuesday, January 7th, 2025, the commissioner of the Department of Public Safety signed the amendments into rule municipalities must enforce the newly adopted 2021 I codes and corresponding standards as of April 7th, 2025. We've been going on the 2015 code until now, but it's now updated. Um, our code enforcement officer gave me this, so that will be\n\nSpeaker 2: In check as the April.\n\nSpeaker 4: Questions for Sue.\n\nSpeaker 2: Thank you. No, I'm okay. Are you all Thank you.\n\nSpeaker 4: Um, set public hearings and or hold public hearings and approval of any licenses or permits. We do not have any this evening discussion of items not on the agenda for Council in public. Uh, we're gonna break protocol just for a second now that they've had a chance to settle in. And I would like to, on behalf of the council, extend the warmest welcome, uh, to our newest councilors, both Gen and Paul RABs. Um, very excited to have you on board. Thank you. We're gonna throw budget at you sooner than you think and, uh, we'll, so you'll be writing them in the thick of it before you even know it. But, uh, uh, I couldn't be happier for the both of you and, uh, for this council overall to have you. So thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. Like, uh, now that I've run my mouth, um, anyone from the public this evening, we'll go to\n\nSpeaker 2: Don,","timeStart":1744.785,"timeEnd":1842.845,"chunkIndex":19},{"id":"d1407185-0dd3-41d4-a1f3-df336e5f787d","content":"Speaker 12: Uh, Don White Bucksport. Um, I spoke to the DEP this today, um, and got some more information. As you know, we've been pursuing this landfill thing now for a long time. Um, I think the original closure plan was supposed to be in January, one of last year of 2024. Uh, that was not, that didn't happen in a letter, I think, from Mayor Binette of in March of 2024. You requested June 30th as a closure plan. That\n\nSpeaker 12: Did not happen. Um, in a letter from Melanie Lo and the commissioner of DEP and Suzanne Miller, they requested a final closure plan in as of November 1st. They submitted on November 1st. As, as Susan has pointed out, they did submit a closure plan. That closure plan was deemed incomplete by the department. Um, so we're continuing to dance with that there. The, in the incomplete closure plan, if you notice in there, AIM says, uh, we plan to close 5 27 27, if I read that correctly, and I read it three or four times. So there's a discrepancy between what the department is, is saying when the, they want it closed completely of 2026. And what aim is now is what they're saying in their, what they've offered, uh, in their closure plan that is not deemed complete. Um, again, I I I just point out that it continues to, we continue to slide in time.","timeStart":1850.625,"timeEnd":1963.245,"chunkIndex":20},{"id":"c67f4731-a303-41e5-bed6-00f49f99aa76","content":"Speaker 12: The DEP continues to move back. When I asked is, are all options still open? The answer was yes. They still can do whatever they have options. It, it allows them time to dance and play. Excuse my uh, words, but I think you understand what I'm saying. And I can maybe understand the frustration that those of us who have been following this for a long time, because we continue to allow the game to be played and to be controlled by aim, DEP, is god bless them, has not been forthright, not, not been adamant in holding to deadline. I'm asking the counsel to, once again, to possibly get involved and pushing this a little bit, uh, relative to, let's get a closure plan in here. Let's get it completed. Because who knows what AIM is doing at this point? Um, they could be, they're, they're just keeping their options open and they don't have any vested interest in doing anything right now.","timeStart":1964.185,"timeEnd":2028.645,"chunkIndex":21},{"id":"56dca009-4c53-49ba-81c7-44e890709343","content":"Speaker 12: They, they just, uh, that kind that, that stuff. So, I, I would wonder if it's not time, again, from the, from the council perspective to just to send a, a letter or do some inquiries as to why, uh, certainly that 5 27 27 date, which was, is not even been acknowledged by DEP informally. But that's what, that's what's in there if I read it correctly. And again, it's an incomplete thing. And when I asked, is this another delay? The says, yeah, there's another delay. And why is the delay that, that, that why don't, why, why, why don't they have to? What's going on with that? Well, Haley Ward has lost an engineer. Haley Ward's the one who's doing the closure plan. The answer was, Haley Ward has lost an engineer, so there's gonna be a delay again. So I, I just, uh, prompt the council to keep onto this a bit and perhaps even get involved a little more strenuously. 'cause uh, who knows what's going on here behind the scenes. I thank you for your time.\n\nSpeaker 2: Follow up on that date. Sure. Okay, sure. Thank you. Uh, anyone else from the public? No.","timeStart":2029.355,"timeEnd":2111.205,"chunkIndex":22},{"id":"6a0f72a5-97a6-44b4-93dc-c27720f65ffb","content":"Speaker 14: Ralph Chapman from Bucksport. And I, uh, bring you some information that was not available at the last council meeting. I've put it on a piece of paper for each of you. There are two questions and two answers on this piece of paper. If you kindly pass it around. Actually give me one. I, I had . Thank you. I wanted to read what the, these are the two questions that I asked of Bucksport, LLC relative to the, the dam and relative to book ports ordinance relating to, um, the dam transfer abandonment or removal. First question I asked was, whether the owner of the Silver Lake Dam is intending to follow the Bucksport ordinance relating to dams, dam removals or abandonment. And their answer","timeStart":2118.455,"timeEnd":2171.765,"chunkIndex":23},{"id":"151e5093-5769-4b41-98be-a67199f7148e","content":"Speaker 14: Is, Bucksport mill will abide by all valid legal requirements. I will translate that for you. That means no, they have no intention of complying with the ordinance. If they did, they would say yes, they did not say yes. Therefore, the answer is no. But it gives, their answer gives a clue as to what their reason is for their no answer, which is they don't consider the bucksport ordinance to be valid. They provided an opportunity for a follow-up question. And so I asked, what are the reasons, if any, for bport mill LLC to find buck port's damn transfer abandonment or removal ordinance invalid? And their answer is a non-answer. That process is separate from the DEP process and will therefore be addressed separately. Uh, that means we're ignoring your question and we have no intention of answering it, because there is no process for them to address that separately. So my question for you, and it's a, it, it's not meant to be an unfriendly question, but what is the council's strategy, the town strategy for enforcing its ordinance? It's a complicated question. It's a complicated question because it's quite clear that\n\nSpeaker 13: It,\n\nSpeaker 14: It's not going to be complied with voluntarily. That I think is very clear. And that puts the town in a very tricky position because the town is proceeding as though it is going to negotiate potential ownership of the dam with the company that's refusing to co to comply with the ordinance. Um, I I have reason to believe that if your options may be very limited,","timeStart":2173.825,"timeEnd":2303.405,"chunkIndex":24},{"id":"242fa475-8073-4687-974b-318b141edbf0","content":"Speaker 14: The ordinance suggests that the transfer of ownership cannot take place unless the ordinance is complied with. Now, imagine that you negotiate a transfer to the town and then say, well, by the way, we can't go through with that transfer that we've just negotiated because you haven't complied. You can see that's, uh, that's not a nice position to be in. So what are your options? And I, and and I, I, I don't, I'm not a lawyer, , I'm not a lawyer. Uh, and I strongly suggest that you get adequate legal advice on this matter. Um, the options that you may have may go everywhere from explicitly abandoning the ordinance, uh, uh, to, uh, taking some legal action immediately of some kind. And that's the reason why I'm pleading with you to develop a strategy in concert with, uh, legal advice that's available to you. And I offer my help. I'm more than happy if the town wishes me to be part of meetings with, uh, a lawyer or lawyer's concerned about this. I'm more than happy to offer my help in that regard. But I'm not a lawyer and I'm mostly a citizen hoping that you will develop a strategy here because you're being run over by a steamroller at the present time. Thank you,","timeStart":2305.745,"timeEnd":2412.885,"chunkIndex":25},{"id":"378633c7-3272-4993-a55b-812d97d3e943","content":"Speaker 5: Mr. I Well, the, the discussion of legal strategy is not best done in the council chambers. Where the meeting is being televised is, but the concerns you've expressed and the what you've outlined in terms of options are, are certainly under consideration in review for, um, several. What if, you know, if it goes this way, it, it that this, this is not, nobody's sitting on their thumbs. Uh, those discussions are happening, but I am not free in a council chamber that people are watching to tell you the strategy that, uh, is being developed because then it's not strategy anymore. It is, that's the best I can say at the moment. I would very strongly back that statement of yours.\n\nSpeaker 2: Thank, thank you for that.\n\nSpeaker 4: The only thing I'll add, and it's not,","timeStart":2414.625,"timeEnd":2497.965,"chunkIndex":26},{"id":"5a24efca-f5bb-4696-8cba-8f002edc4fd0","content":"Speaker 4: It's not meant in a confrontational manner at all, and it is not said with any, what I, what I believe is any degree of naivete. And I assure everyone in this room and the citizens of Bucksport that it is not the po it is not my position to, in any way defend bucksport mail LLC in there any answer that they have given on bucksport mail answers.com. But I will say this, their answer to the top question that you provided is, Bucksport mail will abide by all valid legal requirements, and I know how you've chosen to interpret that, and I'm even inclined to agree with it. However, we have an ordinance in place, we consulted with attorneys on that ordinance, and one can also choose to read that as that until otherwise, um, or shown otherwise. Um, that bucksport mill, LLC, uh, um, intends to abide by all valid legal requirements. And I believe, without having pulled this counsel, um, but I believe that we are certainly of the opinion as the town manager is, and you can tell me if I'm putting words in your mouth, that that ordinance that we put into place is legal, um, and that we will stand by it","timeStart":2501.155,"timeEnd":2573.845,"chunkIndex":27},{"id":"d701d172-2ff2-4b68-abaa-d94e3acd1fd6","content":"Speaker 4: And, um, until somebody tries to state otherwise. And I'm confident we will, as we had a strategy for that, then we will have a strategy for that. Um, potentiality. Maybe I'll stop there, but, um, I, again, I'm not saying that to argue with you in any way, just to say that. I wanna look at both interpretations for now and see what road that takes us, but to be, have a high level of awareness down the road as we go. Any other questions or comments on that? Anything else from the public?\n\nSpeaker 6: My only comment was, my only comment was just to remind folks that we do actually have a, a very good representation and counsel. Um, and so I think that pro I I also agree that that process has to live into that relationship and, and I think,\n\nSpeaker 2: Um,\n\nSpeaker 6: Yeah, I'm just agreeing with other counselors that I, that we, we will defend our, um, our ordinance.\n\nSpeaker 4: Agreed. I can state firmly, again, without having poll counselors that this council is not in the business of enacting policy, that it is no intention of en um, not enforcing\n\nSpeaker 2: That. So\n\nSpeaker 4: We'll see where that takes us. Um, anything else from the public? Anything from the council?\n\nSpeaker 8: One thing, um, just maybe for a future discussion to possibly put something into the budget. We've been talking about","timeStart":2575.065,"timeEnd":2692.405,"chunkIndex":28},{"id":"4ea8483c-3524-4f10-9fcc-b5efe6c1871b","content":"Speaker 8: The, his historical society ever since I came on. This is year six. And the biggest, I know they're a long ways away from a new building or moving or anything like that. They've got fundraising to do and a plan to, strategic plan to assemble. But I think we've all showed concern of preserving the artifacts. So if they're talking 15,000, which I think we could do a little better than that to upgrade, and nine maybe with a rebate. So we'd be around 22 to 23. That seems reasonable that we could cover those two costs and see what, and put it into the budget.\n\nSpeaker 4: So are you requesting this evening that that becomes part of the budget conversation, is what I'm hearing?\n\nSpeaker 8: I I would at least in the next couple meetings discuss it further if people want to, but I would, that's 22, 20 $3,000 to preserve the artifact. And that's our main goal.\n\nSpeaker 4: Wanna run it through finance committee or\n\nSpeaker 5: That, um, process wise, if it, if it's budgetary, you would encourage them to submit a request for funding like other through, through that the traditional cycle through the traditional, that's how outside entities get into the budget is through that outside agency request\n\nSpeaker 8: Piece. Now, do we still require before they, like if before they come to finance, do they need to get three quotes for electrical and three for e pump?","timeStart":2694.105,"timeEnd":2792.885,"chunkIndex":29},{"id":"7fe1c449-ea56-48d8-9fd7-a37a553cb779","content":"Speaker 5: Well, the, the, if they were to submit a request, but there's a whole application form and what you have to include it, et cetera, that asks for it. The, if they're then funded through the budget process, then their, their, their process for getting quotes and their process for doing that is theirs. We're, we we're not, we just fund the request. They then get their own quotes, hire their own people. We just write a check to them for the amount that you, that was appropriated once we see what they've done. But outside agencies, which they are, aren't something that we micromanage to the degree that the department heads have to get three quotes and all this kind of stuff. They, they would be outside of that, but they would just need to re to submit a request outlining what it is they want to do, but what they want the money for.","timeStart":2792.995,"timeEnd":2862.805,"chunkIndex":30},{"id":"513eb115-dd7d-47cb-9bde-9deb212f4c6f","content":"Speaker 5: But also it's information about the organization and that kind of stuff that comes in as part of that application. So that would be the process and that, that it's due by the end of February, close to the end of February, the request, and then it goes into the budget. You see it in April when you start, they would come to that a session like all the other entities of to ask for and you decide which ones you include and that kind of thing. Which if they do it that way, it would give them some more time to get po The other thing ducks in a row, so to speak for their organization, that if they were considered for funding, they might be in a better position to actually get quotes, do do things because they've got things in place for the organization that it sounds like a in process fall\n\nSpeaker 8: Into Yeah. Budget, but things are falling into place. Yep. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 15: So Will, will they,\n\nSpeaker 5: How do they get the application? They say, can I have an ? Um, Cassie Allison who sits at the front counter manages all of those there. She sends them all out. She gets them all back. They have not gone out yet. Um, I'll ask\n\nSpeaker 15: Her through historical on the distribution, which says, here's the application, here's the, this is when you have to have in, and this is when the meeting, does that sound\n\nSpeaker 8: That works for me? Just that's, I guess that's, that's in your hands. But, uh,\n\nSpeaker 15: Yeah, I'm not familiar with the process. So, and it is not","timeStart":2862.905,"timeEnd":2975.805,"chunkIndex":31},{"id":"67375a36-ebc8-4243-b212-a8cebebb1dbc","content":"Speaker 5: Complicated , but the council came up with a process, I don't know how many years ago now for outside agency requests that has a policy that discusses what the goals are through that, and then ask for information on the organization, um, what role it plays in the life, so to speak of bucks four.\n\nSpeaker 8: Just seems like that would be a, a good healthy bandaid on a six year discussion. Yes. To get us much further down. Yep, yep. If we, if we have the money to fund it. Yep. That, yeah. We gotta have the s have the conversation. Yep. Agreed.\n\nSpeaker 15: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 8: Anything else from the council? Got it. Uh, upcoming","timeStart":2976.435,"timeEnd":3026.805,"chunkIndex":32},{"id":"fd8cb461-2998-447b-8c11-2d97b6136c92","content":"Speaker 4: Public hearings, designation of topics for committee assignment and schedule of committee meetings. Um, we, the goals and objectives meeting date for those of you new to the council or, um, back to the council. Um, you'll remember, uh, council arrives that, that meeting, um, at least in my time on the council has you, has been a separate meeting on a night. Um, we have done it on a night. That is not a typical council meeting. I believe we've also done it on a night that is a council meeting. I don't know what the pleasure of the council is. Um, but it would be great to have that meeting, um, either the first full week of February, so like an evening on say the fourth, fifth or sixth. I'm just throwing the dates out there. Um, or if we needed to go into the next week, not to do it on a council night, which 'cause our next meeting will be February the 13th. Well, excuse me. Our first meeting in February would be the 13th. So if we did it perhaps the, the proceeding evening or on February the 11th of February the 11th. I don't know what the pleasure of the council is and what works for everybody's schedule. But I kind of would like to, to set that tonight so we can begin\n\nSpeaker 4: Having a, these conversations that we've been talking about, is February 6th\n\nSpeaker 5: An option? That's an option.\n\nSpeaker 4: Feb. Yeah. The Thursday before our normal meeting. That could be an option.\n\nSpeaker 5: Well, that we've tried to drive most historically. We've tried to drive things to Thursday night. Is that a bad,","timeStart":3026.805,"timeEnd":3108.565,"chunkIndex":33},{"id":"c3fd163e-478f-46e3-b5e3-0b4c2f9f8a11","content":"Speaker 16: So yeah, I, I have a standing meaning that I moved from the council night to be the first Thursday to, because it needs to go up against another committee. So that's my only problem. Okay. It's the first\n\nSpeaker 5: Thursday. Can we do the fifth?\n\nSpeaker 4: Wednesday the fifth\n\nSpeaker 5: Would Wednesday the fifth in session. The only reason that, that making it earlier is, is that this informs the budget process. Yep. In terms of I can do this. The fifth. Yes, the fifth work for six o'clock. Six o'clock. Yeah.\n\nSpeaker 4: Great. Thank you. Um, and just as a heads up, and we'll talk more about this, um, as we get closer, but, um, we'll look at doing town manager evaluations in March. So we'll talk about that. I\n\nSpeaker 5: Master one.\n\nSpeaker 4: Yeah. And you're gonna send out committee info mm-hmm .\n\nSpeaker 5: Um, yeah, because the skate park wants to talk about, um, they've gotten grants, they, they wanted higher up design designer, et cetera, but where's it gonna really be in the long term? Mm-hmm . Is, is you can't design a park unless you know where it's gonna be. And, and that it's, it's a more involved discussion than it sounds like because it's, um, there's a lot of other moving pieces. So they had asked when the, we should have the committee will be established. We can have it on the 23rd at six o'clock if that,\n\nSpeaker 4: If that's Yeah. If we can, if we can do that. Yep. Um, we can, I can, we can put anybody new on that committee. We can take care of that first and then speak with the Yep.","timeStart":3109.105,"timeEnd":3219.485,"chunkIndex":34},{"id":"fc90e9f6-b621-40f5-9b23-18bc37a042ba","content":"Speaker 5: Yeah. Well if everybody, I, I'll send out the, the committees and who's on it and if everybody just writes on what they want or mm-hmm . Emails it to you, then you would have what everybody's preferences were. Yep. Um, the outside committees, which are Blackport Bay Healthy communities and cemeteries also, I, I don't know if the, the existing people wanna stay on that or if they wanna move off that to something else. Councillor Eastman, did you wanna stay?\n\nSpeaker 17: I can, if no one wants it. If someone wants it, we\n\nSpeaker 5: Can. I'm, I'm happy to stay on Bucksport Bay. We've got a pretty good back and forth. Yeah. Okay. Well we can, the pleasure of, um, the rest of the council. You know, this, uh, no. Councilor Eastman's done a ton of heavy lifting on cemeteries this past year. It's been a lot of\n\nSpeaker 4: Agreed.\n\nSpeaker 5: It's been a lot. Yep.\n\nSpeaker 4: I think the cemetery is one is a great one. Politician in my nature, but for, but for a new counselor as well. Um, but if anybody has an interest, please let me know.\n\nSpeaker 17: And it does. So everybody knows it meets on the second meeting the Thursday at four 30.\n\nSpeaker 4: Yep. Second Thursday of the month at four 30. Yep. Uh,\n\nSpeaker 17: The last meeting, I said that wrong the last\n\nSpeaker 4: Thursday. Got it. Yeah.\n\nSpeaker 5: Prior to the council. Right.\n\nSpeaker 4: Uh, so we will do an infrastructure committee meeting on the 23rd at, you wanna do that six or six 30?\n\nSpeaker 5: Uh,\n\nSpeaker 4: Six probably. 'cause you never, that could be a long discussion.","timeStart":3219.955,"timeEnd":3323.925,"chunkIndex":35},{"id":"64270795-1bba-4f06-a1b4-9cf7186c20a1","content":"Speaker 5: It could be a\n\nSpeaker 4: Long discussion. 6:00 PM Got it. Thank you. Um, and just a heads up, I know we have at our next meeting, Jen, are you,\n\nSpeaker 5: That's the one I can't be\n\nSpeaker 4: Right. Okay. Is it, uh, everyone else as far as they know now? Here, next meeting. Great. Great. That\n\nSpeaker 5: Is the 23rd,\n\nSpeaker 4: Correct? That is okay. Yes. Alright. Um, any other questions on any of that?\n\nSpeaker 5: I just have one absence in February, Mr. Mayor, which I read\n\nSpeaker 4: To you. Yes. Yep. And I'll, I'll, um, talk to that closer to that date. Okay. Mr. Johnson, please. Is it my understanding that counsel, I'm gonna get yelled at by the folks at home. If you don't come up to the Oh,\n\nSpeaker 5: They can hear from anywhere.\n\nSpeaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry. Yep. I'm old. Habits die hard. You can, you can speak from right there because everywhere , um, is it my understanding that conflict Eastman's gonna stay on the cemetery? Is\n\nSpeaker 5: That\n\nSpeaker 17: Correct? Unless somebody, you know, eagerly","timeStart":3324.025,"timeEnd":3382.805,"chunkIndex":36},{"id":"0cd828b6-30e4-492f-b6e0-42647eeb1544","content":"Speaker 18: Okay. Comes forward and we don't have a meeting scheduled because we were waiting for this event to take place. Right. Correct. Then we can schedule that. My other question is, conservation committee has no, uh, board or no council representative on it right now. And we've been meeting on that. So I, I don't know if it if it's required with that specific thing, but I believe it is. It's, it's never come out as a, as a need that I could see in the chart or anything. But I just thought I'd bring that up. What day do you meet? What day is that meeting, Chris? The conservation committee. I'm on so many committees. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 4: Fair enough\n\nSpeaker 5: That, that is on the next agenda for discussion about the tree's inventory and all that, that was discussed. But we, that came to me after this agenda was done. So it's on the agenda for the 23rd to talk about the conservations request. It's supposed to be submitted for, for a tree inventory.\n\nSpeaker 18: Okay. The question is, is there a need or is the, the, the code the child to require a council person to be on that committee?\n\nSpeaker 5: I, I will check. I, I don't know off the top of my head. Okay. I, but I'll say other\n\nSpeaker 18: Question. Thanks.\n\nSpeaker 4: Yeah. And if there is anybody on the council interested, just lemme know. Um, anything else? If not chair, we'll attend a motion to adjourn. Motion adjourn. Second. All in favor? Opposed? Thank you everyone. Good discussion. Thanks.","timeStart":3382.955,"timeEnd":3471.925,"chunkIndex":37}]}}}